I totally agree with Steve. In annuals, if the plant is a bush type, trim back one-third of the plant. You are using an out of date browser. What can that mean? They were in rockwool when I got them, rooted, and I immediately transplanted them into a basic organic potting soil. does this happen to anyone else? 60-65% is ideal RH around 80 F. In all that, I forgot to mention a key point as to why drying back too much in an autopot, What do you mean by dryback? You are using an out of date browser. It came out between 7 and 8 for all the plants. Now I stop calling cuttings "cuttings", once they root. So I purchased mine and do not currently have a dome, any recommendations to bring them back to life before its too late? Iv got some clonex , would this help the roots do you think? Are these things accurate at soil pH? They were about 2 feet from the light. how about first aid? I had it sitting outside for a few hours in the sun today. It doesn't come from seed. If you do see new growth, then know that this is an excellent time to transplant your brand-new marijuana plant. Do not water again until soil is dry. Technically it will always be considered a clone, because that's just what it is. I wasn't pHing my water until just now. 1 or 2 or is it best to wait for more before transplanting into soil ? that be like at least 80% humidity yo. Join 420 Magazine and our collective mission of activists promoting Cannabis awareness since 1993. Any tips/help is greatly appreciated. Took your advice and just picked up a pH/light/moisture reader from the garden center. Maybe this is the main culprit? Often time I was just out planting what looked to be sticks. Don't know what the issue is! Im having an issue Ive never experienced my clones are dying anywhere between 2-5 days after transplant into my 70/30 coco. they were right across from each other, cut with the same blade and using the same soil, same size cuts with the same everything yet this morning one is robust and happy looking, the other is on death's door. Step 7: inspect your plants for pests. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It can also be used as a transplant shock preventer if applied at the time of transplanting. Can this process go faster with the help of fertilizer? hiboy May 4, 2017 #2 Vonkins said: Sounds like a nice fit for short indicas, yup. How much would i put in per litre? I explain how to properly acclimate the babies in my cloning article. Make sure you give it a good watering so that all of the soil is moist, and then you might have to give her some water right on top of the cube, as needed until the roots get established in the soil. When I relocated one of my outdoor plants, some of the. looks thoroghly dehydrated man, how many days since you last watered? I totally agree with Steve. 1. Posts: 4951. But they do look pretty bad for sure need to be in the ICU. Now they are plants, no longer cuttings. This happens because new growth occurs that is so minor, its nearly invisible to the naked eye, but a slightly new and more vibrant shade of green is a really good indication that your marijuana plant is well established and that its very likely ready for the big move. Ph at 5.9 res temp 65 degrees F Air temp 72 degrees F humidity 35% Do you think the nutrients might still be a little high or is this normal during the transplant. You're currently browsing the forum as a guest. Roots emerging form the bottom or side of propagation media. Someone always wimpers out and needs another day or 2 in the dome. Thanks for the info, I will try and give it another couple of days and see how it does, Yes those will just dry up don't think they'll recover no worries leave them on an let the plant rid them of all nutrients. Transplant to the dirt and mist the dome/pitcher and put it over the clone for the first two days. Thanks for the help guys , iv taken the rockwools out of the soil , to try and stop the moisture being absorbed. International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. After over 10 days in the clone dome, misting twice a day, they start the "harding off" process for a couple of days. Back on in time and they perk right up. 2023 Gardening Know How, Future US LLC, Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036. In perennials, trim back about one-third of the plant. GDP Trichomes Under the Microscope! Signs Of A Root Bound Plant: How Do I Know If A Plant Is Root Bound? Second day cut a hole in the top of the baggie. Thats all i can think of mate, dont mean to sound condecending. The soil doesn't look wet at all, so water the clones planter and add plastic wrap over it and it if is able, it'll improve appearance in a few hours. International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. Drooping leaves after a transplant can result from a lack of water, even if the plant has been given the same amount of water it usually needs. It's not uncommon nor a big deal. Whether you see new tiny leaves or the development of other possible growth or production such an increase in crystals or height, then this is a really good indicator that your clones are strong and healthy, and could probably tolerate a move to a more permanent residence. That gets me 2.5 oz. Unless you transplanted into dry soil and didn't water at all? But using this method I can usually have them happy in the open air after two weeks and once they've proven they like it .. that's when I transplant. Awesome thanks a lot lefty. I agree it's a water issue, most likely too much water, not enough O2. try NO SHOCK (plant supplement by Advance nutrients)when you transplant. If they are "too firmly" seated, you may have bent or broken the stem and stopped water uptake. Rooted cuttings are eager to stretch their new appendages and begin feeding. Am I overwatering or doing something wrong? Meet expert cultivators sharing grow journals, tutorials and pictures in our gallery, while helping others answer frequently asked questions. Transplanting young marijuana clones or seedlings is one of the first things novice gardeners need to master. Why no pics of the OGxSD?! The leaves are still green snd soft though, No you didn't come off as a dick at all, I'm the dunce for not realising this was the same plant..lol. The soil itself had a decent moistness to it to begin with, but maybe I just need to add more water? The next day my clones are wilted and dying. mix it in water use to presoak soil (mix well, don't make dirt to wet or too dry) also place plant in the dark or dim light ( no grow lights) for 4 or 5 hours to rest. The leaves may recover or may not. It is just like hardening off transplants when we take them out of the greenhouse before we transplant them into the field. Water this in well. Lets face it, plants were not designed to be moved from place to place, and when we humans do this to them, it is bound to cause some problems. What is the Humidity of the grow room? Hope this answers the question Baja. Water every 3 days. Here's what I'd do. "Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. Why didn't you water straight after transplanting like everyone said to with your others? humidity may be a reason why the leaves are wilting, like GFcollective said misting your humidity dome and waiting a bit should help with the welting of leaves. Day three cut a bigger hole in the baggie. Join 420 Magazine and our collective mission of activists promoting Cannabis awareness since 1993. A wireless transplanter can drastically cut down labor in your propagation process. When you say let it completely dry do you mean event the soil that's an inch or two down? I got to agree with the humidity. I have used Olivia's in water before and that seemed to work fine. Clones dont exactly change color just from being cut away from the mother plant, but once theyre established, they do tend to brighten up a bit in color. The fine roots that absorb the bulk of the water . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I would use either CFL or T5 for cloning, if you can't use a aero-type cloner then you should have a humidity dome over these or be foliar feeding them. Maybe shade it a day or 3 until it perks up. Clones are acclimated over 5-7 days in domes. Place the seed. Survey: How many plants do you grow in your tent. do you think they will perk up? You cant grab just any old soil or dirt from the garden and hope it will be good enough, because this is a developing seedling that needs some extra love and care, and that is why, we highly recommend waiting until you have nutrient-dense soil, lights, and everything else you might need for it to flourish before you start. I have poked my fingers into the soil of a few of them and although it's dry for at least an inch or two, there is moist soil towards the middle and bottom of each container. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Clones dont take very long to transform into a nice and stable little marijuana plant, but if you try to transplant them too soon, there will be sudden disruption to the root system that is trying so hard to grow and establish itself. When you got them, were they bare root or in soil? i just misted them with warm water. I just mist 3 or 4 times a day. Voting begins on the 15th day of each month. Hope I cleared up any confusion. should i poke a hole or two in the wrap so it doesn't suffocate the plant? You could put a dome over them when you transplant, but it's probably not worth the work. Nice lefty, some of those clones are looking real good. What soil are you using ? Trim back the plant Trimming back the plant allows the plant to focus on regrowing its roots. Thanks! Theyd survive if the veg room was above 55%. My first time grow is having problem help please! I assume that it is best to wait until this is dry as well before the next watering? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. JavaScript is disabled. Ill update in a few days to let you know if it did the trick, Im going to try the clear cup trick for the next 24hrs or so and see if that helps too. I'm running a vivosun 315 cmh with 2 100w LEDs, AC infinity 4 in vent system. The tips are starting to get black and curl. Both of these things can seriously damage and even kill your marijuana plant, which is why their presence might warrant fast action that goes against these guidelines. I used to soak, sprout in napkins blah blah. Any advice welcomed! They are in a grow tent, and Im using a full spectrum LED that puts out 200w. It may not display this or other websites correctly. However, in the majority of situations, you should do everything within your power to ensure that it rests long enough to recover from the traumatic process, so try your best to be patient and wait unless danger is imminent. Some totally wilt over limp and others show signs of low humidity stress (the leaves curl up to a crisp on day 2-3 after transplant) The clones are rooted in rockwool cubes and hardened off gradually from day 5 -10, removing the dome completely for a day or 2. clones are always placed in 70/30 coco mix with Mycos, Azos and Root by RXgreen Technologies. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Newly rooted clones need cool temps and modest light for the first few days after transplant. We also put xtreme gardening AZOS were the roots would be. Marijuana Plant Problems Wilting Clones and Slow Growth after Transplanting into Soil rydintoker May 24, 2009 R rydintoker Member May 24, 2009 #1 Im currently working on my third crop of clones takin from my snowcap plants. I watered them, they both came back up, then this one stopped and starting wilting again. We even took all newly transplanted clones and placed them in a clone dome with humidity levels around 80-90% and i came in today (the 3rd day) to find many doing the same exact thing. mix it in water use to presoak soil (mix well, don't make dirt to wet or too dry) also place plant in the dark or dim light ( no grow lights) for 4 or 5 hours to rest. So, Ive never had any issues shown here until about a month ago. What are ya'll keep yer cuttings wet with? I just moved the wilting ones closer to the light, hoping that may help. Get some plastic wrap over the planter to hold in moisture. but as we all know, it can be a one of a million things. I remove the plant from the coco to check the roots and theyre 100% white and fat: no browning or discoloration, rot or thinning. For those who want to achieve a yield from a bunch of plants that are all identical, cloning is the ideal way to preserve those genetics. Cloning Weed: A Beginner's Guide to Cloning A Cannabis Plant. Loving the show! This is my 2nd attempt, starting my first grow In my 44 tent. Isn't the ideal around 6 for the soil? Are you PH'ing your water? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Most plants will droop from shock when transplanted. #2. Thank you. Harvest Recap! The cuttings may be too large with too much leaf mass. Also a good 48 hours of darkness after taking the clones helps jump start the rooting. How long do the clones wilt and droop after a transplant! I have given them all about a cup of water a day, maybe a little less. Step 4: analyse your growing medium. or should i leach them to get the toxins out of the soil? Just put some carnations in the garden outside and yesterday they looked like they would die. Step 2: analyse your watering schedule. But, there are a few things to know about how to avoid transplant shock and cure plant transplant shock after it has occurred. Take a minute to sign upso you can ask questions, discuss your grow, orbrag about your plants with other real-life cannabis growers! Hey guys, the Banana is doing EXCELLENT. We all know that a good dose of fertilizer to your marijuana plant can be super beneficial if its done at the right time, but when it comes to cannabis cloned, it is the last thing youll want to use. I have 4 clones, different strains. 5. Some can keep clones going forever getting massive roots. JavaScript is disabled. JavaScript is disabled. My nutrients levels are at 470ppm which was about half of what the bottle recommended dosage is for seedlings and clones. While there is no sure-fire way to cure plant transplant shock, there are things you can do to minimize the transplant shock in plants. I'm a freak about babying my clones before they get promoted to open air. I use T5s and CFLs for mine, then outside to veg in summer, or HO T5s in winter. Atleast one set is. I used to buy field grown tomato transplant out of Georgia. Bring your dying weed plant back to life. And what soil did you plant them into? Please Welcome New 420 Sponsor MJ Wholesale, Graytail's 4th Perpetual: 4x4 Samsung Panels, Graytail's 3rd - 4x4 - Latest LED Tech - Lotsa Light, Graytail Goes LED - 810W Programmable Panel, Graytail's Cupwinners in High Brix Soil - 4x4 - 600W HPS - Perpetual - closed, All Content Copyright 1993-2023 420 Magazine All Rights Reserved. Even the most helpful nutrients and chemicals can be abrasive, especially if they're poured directly onto an open wound that remains from the cutting, so avoid fertilizers and additives that are not intended for cloning at all costs. He was suggesting that u can cut the leaves to lower transpiration so they'd have a better shot at healthy roots. I have not had a seed not germinate. When the garden, lights, or pots and soil are ready and available. Spider Mites Gone Wild! unfortunately i gave them some tea and nutes and they aren't really rebounding like i had hoped. put a clear cup or otherclear container over the clone so it acts as a humidity dome..should perk up for you. Check out my new Colloidal Silver GDP Seed Project Journal here on 420! Just remove the humidity dome from your clones for a couple hours and watch all your clones wilt away. But sometimes cubes is what I have on hand so I use them. Sign up for our newsletter. I can get more pH'd water at the hydo store but they don't open til tomorrow morning so i guess a half cup will have to do for now. because this is a thread for my Banana Kush hahah. These machines can handle tens of cloned plants at a time. Mark the spot with a tooth pick or something. Home Made Clearex for Pennies! Seems like the Banana's leaves are getting yellow. IMNSHO it would be best to bury those rock cubes a bit deeper, they give up their moisture way too easily, I like them just under the soil. The obedient must be slaves. I found my clones do better with out humidity domes. So thsts what I started and to this date. low humidity is why they are wilting. Righteous. The mother is healthy so i dont think its the soil we use room temp filtered water and let sit for 48 hours to dechlorinate the water. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I know the dispensaries say that the customers prefer clones in the rock wool cubes, but I personally can't stand the stuff, unless I'm using it for insulation or sound absorption. This goes for both seedlings and clones. Top Your Plant and Clone the Growing Tip Too! The top tray of exact same size but its shallow and it has a grate like surface. The first is related to root activity and function. 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