He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. Mickey Lolich Birth Name: Michael Stephen Lolich Occupation: Baseball Player Born In: Portland Birthdate: September 12, 1940 Age: 82 years old (as of 2022) Ethnicity: Unknown Nationality: American Sexuality: N/A Mickey Lolich was born on the 12th of September, 1940. Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. And Rusty Staub? October 13, 2008 Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. Bartolo Colon etc). Quarry: "I'm a much better singer than Frazier. April 27, 2013 The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. June 30, 2019 Bob P Kooz 1966 Topps Baseball Cards. Mike B Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Cut him some slack. mets The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. He still knew how to pitch but had no run support to get him a winning record. I still remember the Mets broadcast team trying to build him up in the eyes of the fans because he had been a Cy Young award winner. As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. August 11, 2015 This happened because M. Donald Grant, usurper/dictator of the New York Mets, was personally annoyed by Rusty Staub. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the
December 8, 2006 Randy Tate Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. October 4, 2005 August 7, 2018 Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. We are going all the way!" Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. He was my dad's favorite Met, though, I think because here was a gut with a gut as big as my dad's who was out there flinging baseballs for money. Stu Baron That would make him a star in today's market. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. And complaining about how fat he was? You can't be serious. We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. July 15, 2016 April 24, 2003 Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. October 19, 2011 Feat Fan According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. October 4, 2006 October 13, 2008 Raymond Malcuit Peter - It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. Bartolo Colon etc). As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. Really? But this one defied all logic from the beginning. 6'1", 170???? Our visitors have submitted thousands of thoughts and memories of the Mets and the games they've played. Rusty has always been a fan favorite so if you're going to trade him it better be worth it, and to most of us Mets fans Lolich wasn't. They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. August 7, 2018 Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. Bob P Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! An E.R.A of 3.22 in the mid 70's was still pretty respectable. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. Al Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? Lolich hit a home run in the World Series- and so what does that mean, that he was a great hitter? Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. Mike B As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. April 6, 2012 Rusty played another decade. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. Peter I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. Raymond Malcuit End of Line C'mon John, the Mets did the Tigers a huge favor by taking this washed-up pitcher off their hands and giving them a great hitter like Rusty. December 20, 2019 I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. August 7, 2018 He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. MLB.TV Watch & Listen Archives . Rusty has always been a fan favorite so if you're going to trade him it better be worth it, and to most of us Mets fans Lolich wasn't. John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. December 20, 2019 When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. body would be a pretty slender person. An E.R.A of 3.22 in the mid 70's was still pretty respectable. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? Stu Baron As it is, he was traded to a team with a set of already existent aces- Seaver and Koosman. Other than some one saying he ate donuts rather than come back to NY, does anyone know the real reason why he didn't pitch in 77? Really? senor ortiz That does not prevent Lolich from cherishing his memories. He pitched very good ball for you. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. Believe me if he pitched like the ace he was in Detroit no one here would have been so quick to criticize the trade. (Note: others featured in that section were the Knicks' Toby Knight and his wife and Rangers enforcer Nick Fotiu and his very leggy wife and kids)I also had the unfortunate opportunity to score the game against the Phillies where pitcher Larry Christensen belted TWO home runs off Lolich on a hot Sunday afternoon. Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. He has been married to Joyce Fleenor since 21 November 1964. murphy What a sore disapppointment it was to see Staub take over rightfield (with his gnat's piss arm) after watching Kaline out in right all of those years in Detroit. Lolich may have gone 8-13 in 1976 but Koosman did even worse the next two years (1977 and 1978). April 27, 2013 They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. eddiek December 8, 2006 6'1", 170???? March 22, 2005 Mr. Sparkle (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. That's more realistic but generous, I think! I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. Well, I never realized that Rusty Staub was such a favorite in New York, beside the old Tigers announcer George Kell always making a fuss over Rusty Staub's New York restaurant. Mr. Sparkle No put-down of Mickey, but that teamed needed Staub much more than they needed another pitcher. May 7, 2013 However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. Shickhaus Franks The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. Man, those pitches were big ones. Lolich may have been a great pitcher once, but by 1976 he was a has-been. He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. Al Raymond Malcuit C'mon John, the Mets did the Tigers a huge favor by taking this washed-up pitcher off their hands and giving them a great hitter like Rusty. He led the Tigers to their second last-place finish in their 76-year history. Mickey did a few good games with the Mets as well as a couple shutouts. I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. Lolich may be a legend in Detroit based on his 1968 World Series performance, but he was at the end of his career by 1976. They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. All he represents for me was one of the many horrendous choices the Mets have made over the years, always going after washed up has-beens past their prime. =Chuck= Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. You can't be serious. GoMets2006 John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. Family (1) Spouse He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. Hey Mets Fan, Lolich never asked to be traded to New York. August 11, 2015 Bobster1985 Jamey Bumbalo Rusty has always been a fan favorite so if you're going to trade him it better be worth it, and to most of us Mets fans Lolich wasn't. Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? Pitchingwise, he made Hank Webb look like Tom Seaver. Precut pieces were pulled by horses across the ice in the winter and were built in the spring. December 20, 2019 But he was not a career Tiger. He wanted to finish out his career in Detroit, where he had some great years (the photo of him jumping on Bill Freehan after the final out in the 1968 World Series is a classic). Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. He had terrific stuff. An E.R.A of 3.22 in the mid 70's was still pretty respectable. January 12, 2011 In my opinion, there are only three candidates for worst trade in Mets history:1) Staub for Lolich 2) the Ryan trade 3) the Seaver tradeI believe the Seaver trade was the worst, for obvious reasons. November 12, 2006 Other than some one saying he ate donuts rather than come back to NY, does anyone know the real reason why he didn't pitch in 77? Lolich may be a legend in Detroit based on his 1968 World Series performance, but he was at the end of his career by 1976. Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. Mike B In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. November 19, 2002 A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. Not that THAT did squat for the Mets! July 15, 2016 Stu Baron May 7, 2013 feat fan Jamey Bumbalo When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. Thanks for the memories, Mick! He goes up one notch for being a character! The Bellevue Hotel on Bellevue Island was built in 1899. Doug S. Peter But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. Other than some one saying he ate donuts rather than come back to NY, does anyone know the real reason why he didn't pitch in 77? June 11, 2003 April 23, 2003 The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. What an interesting parallel, huh? He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. Rusty played another decade. He learned to pitch lefty in order to strengthen his left hand and arm after he lost the use of his right hand for a few years as a child. June 30, 2019 6'1", 170???? The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. October 13, 2008 Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the
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