She approached this with sensitivity, wisdom and grace. Humility, repentance, confession, forgiveness, reconciliation, mercy, love, compassion, healing, serious prayer and so much more for and by everyone should be given top priorities on our agendas soon if not now. Implying that the information on TED was lies. perfect response and reminiscent of what scripture teaches. The church has responded by hiring Lawrence Swicegood, the executive director of communications at Gateway Church, who was also hired by Harvest Bible Chapel when facing its scandal involving James MacDonald. Those who step out of line are often dismissed. At my former church, I reached the point where I couldnt, in good conscience, stay because of the amount of bull-headed spiritual abuse that was going on combined with covering-up of sexual abuse. Others had old wounds that had resurfaced and were hurting, having never felt closure to their stories, Abujamra, a Bible teacher and Moody Radio host, wrote on herblog. I have my own hurt of how certain situations were handled with me through the 20s ministry Then soon after that, the 30s ministry, production ministry and even the womens ministry on multiple occasions. Jesus is still the great healer and restorer. Those that havent gone through it ask why would you speak these things? At the start of the year, elders stated that his primary focus has transitioned from building our ministries to securing a healthy succession that sets all our ministries up to flourish in the next generation.. Be blessed. They helped to create this culture of fear. The Harvest and James MacDonald Controversy Explained, Did Pharaoh Have Free Will? I really think you hit the nail on the head when you said you realized something dark about yourself, that you had been a woman ruled by fearand I could identify with what you said since I had been that woman too. Dont stop trusting or loving. I do have to laugh though. I will not address any party affiliation. Amen Sister! I do know that my faith will not be shaken. A former Harvest staffer was also reported to police last fall after being accused of embezzling $270,000 from the church. God is faithful, and He is doing what needs to be done to protect His bride. Like the unsaved around us we fight for positions of prestige to lord it over one another. In other words, thatwasMacDonald in the recording. For me, I live with the regret of not taking advantage of the opportunity to come over and get to know you. Our full Sunday service will be streamed here every week beginning at 9:30am, and will be available throughout the following week. and pro football. Im far removed from this situation, but saddened by it nonetheless. It isnt about timing. Do you realize the elders are already choosing to step down? I grew up catholic and vever really got a hold of it all. And then unfortunately when we do speak up we get comments like yours saying why nowit seems Christians cant win either way. We are thankful and humbled by His care and protection of our family. Lina did try to have a conversation with the Elders before she left Harvest. The womans bible study lead by two women who referenced Pastor James constantly are still in charge. And, at the same time, I know you to be a humble woman, easily impacted by negative, feedback. Not everything needs to be about Polititcs. Christs grace saves us and sustains us. Our GOD is an awesome GOD. Amen. Please see my link. I dont know why, except that I just really wasnt getting the Word of God from the stage and I do mean stage. Id like to think its the fear of man spoken about in the Bible but I think it often goes beyond that. So your opinion is to fire everybody? Most continue to stay there, as their numbers dwindle. I always wondered why you left but after reading The Elephants Debt I figured I knew why. With my life and schedule, my friends are few and far between, and have always been aware that my saying anything publicly about Harvest or James would jeopardize those friendships that I still love and value so much. Streaming Video Broadcast. I also was silent about why my family left (also the week following the video). Yes, I was there for ex-communication video. Unfortunately I dont think the Harvest RM is the only Harvest with a culture of fear. So often, you would open your home to us. A book called the Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse really helped me and my wife to recover from our experience of confronting the pastor and then leaving the church. What you are talking about is protecting abusers at the expense of those they have abused and betrayed which, unfortunately, happens far too often. Gordon Zwirkoski, a former Harvest elder and the original director of HBF, told Roys that James MacDonald essentially wields ultimate authority at the church and cultivates a spirit of fear in the staff. Former Harvest employee Dave Jones says his church has welcomed dozens of Harvest refugees who show signs of spiritual abuse and are disillusioned.. I am saddened by it. I still would like to read the blog on tattoos. Jesus calls us to be GOOD. This is the mercy and grace of God. Horrified. And a few days later James MacDonalds sons, Luke and Landon MacDonald, also announced they are resigning. Dont talk to them, or theyll drag you down too. Many were kicked out and shown the door. Sheila, we are not called to be good, we are called to be HOLY! I should have left that week, but I was too afraid to cause damage to Jesus and His kingdom and the women I was leading at that time. Still, even I knew when enough was enough. The Lord knows and he keeps the books. Jesus taught eternal love. Ive been blessed by your teaching and Im wondering if I wouldnt have heard your teaching as much had you stayed longer at Harvest. In the wake of his departure, the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability acknowledged serious concerns around spending and financial stewardship under MacDonald that resulted in the church losing its membership status. Please support my writing! In the clips, the person who sounds like MacDonald talks about a plot to plant child pornography on Christianity Today CEO Harold Smiths computer. That is why I really rally for our black preacher and pastors like Keion Henderson, https://www.keionhenderson.com/about-us/ ! This woman sounds sincere. No Celebrities Except Jesus: How Asbury Protected the Revival, Southern Baptist Convention Disfellowships Saddleback Church, After Pushing for UMC Unity, Former Bishop Joins New Denomination, After Chaos and Crisis, Beth Moore Still Finds Refuge in the Church, With Gossip of the Gospel, the Church Grows in Nepal. Roys also lamented the fallout of todays news. And come together in prayer, fasting and humility before Jesus that He enables us to be the people He died for. SHERI PINE. Pray for those of us who donate 10 percent of our income and would like to know where the money really goes. Often no explanation given, and the band plays on. I was so surprised to read that you were afraid because you seem like such a strong and confident person. Harvest Bible Chapel has fired its founder and senior pastor James MacDonald following years of controversial behavior, financial scandal and allegations of bullying and intimidation. Its like I seek mans favor as well, rather than the Lords. James MacDonald, founder of Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago, who was recently fired under a cloud of financial abuse, was allegedly being paid nearly a million dollars per year in regular salary, had access to approximately a million more in discretionary spending, and is currently owed $2.6 million in deferred compensation by the Your two posts make no sense I hope you get some sense and realize people in Church are not infallible only Jesus! James biggest issue was his condemnation of other preachers, he never mentioned them by name he knew better, but I knew who he was talking about. Be blessed Lina! The kindest thing one can do is to cut out and expose the cancer to death. needless to say she did not go back and found a great church she was able to become a part of during her college years. Lean should read it and reply in kind. Fear is a stupid liar and I praise God that Hes given us a spirit of a sound mind and Love!!! When I talk to people about this, they are quick to disqualify anyone who went along with James, who did not stand up to him. Many people went to leaders and spoke up. Or is he in effect the church, with an elder board that exists only for show and to rubber stamp his decisions? He was a very good speaker and teacher of the Bible but was forced to resign from our church a few years back. 5. Many many of us are praying for all of you in Naples. No church outside of the One True Church Christ began was given His authority to act on their own. I was a woman ruled by fear. She is not trying to kick him while he is down. Every weekday, get RELEVANT's top five articles delivered to your inbox! I want to thank you for having the courage to add your testimony to the voices of those who have been abused by HBC. Our enemy loves this. I was so dissappointed to hear that she left. The Church of Jesus Christ is not the organization or nonprofits we create, but the men and women that God calls and saves by the sacrifice of His Son. Is this an informed opinion? Pray for those still there trying to care for the confused and hurting hearts. I have wondered if Harvest Bible Chapel (the organization) is worth the cost its taken to try and save it? At the moment were seeing the effects of a down cycle away from God. Really? Yet their silence hurt me and sometimes made me question the validity of my reasons for leaving. The culture of fear is real, soo much so I dont feel comfortable giving my name as some will know me. What you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the housetops.. The news came less than a week after another update from Julie Roys, a defendant in the lawsuit and the writer responsible for the World investigation, who has continued to release evidence against MacDonald and call for his resignation. Can you please contact me from the Contact button on my web page here? Since I know I am capable of the worst sin, I am choosing to show grace and praying fervently. Throughout the week, there are opportunities for you to grow in your walk with Christ, to serve, and to connect with other people in the Rolling Meadows area. Lina, thank you for your post, and thank you for your honesty and transparency. Lina isnt hanging Harvest Bible Chapel. I am excited for all God is doing in your life to help other women get closer in their relationship with Jesus. Thank you for your honesty and your explanation. 1. Five Uncomfortable Church Documentaries Still Worth Watching, Asbury Announces New Service ScheduleCampus Will Be Closed to the Public After Today, Eight Witnesses Testified Against Hillsong Founder Brian Houston in Court Case. Within days of their statement, MacDonald offered a public apology, admitting to careless and hurtful words and a regression into sinful patterns of fleshly anger and self-pity that wounded co-workers and others.. Thank you Lina, for opening the door of your life so that we can understand your experience. It also had a church-planting network, Harvest Bible Fellowship (HBF), which MacDonald dissolved last year. God is using this to grow me as he does in all trials, so for that Im grateful. Thats what happens when I get older chronologically! Laurie Newman, a Harvest member, told Christianity Today that she believes the church's current leaders, like Bradshaw, are "good people who want to lead the church the way God wants it to. What is strange about your concern about your own fear is I have been of thee opinion that Pastor James must have been ruled by his own fear-fear of losing influence and the fear of losing his ministry. I believe Yahweh has me where He wants me. is it the pastors doing? I believe this is God working to expose sin just as Jesus warned Luke 12:2-3 Thank you. I pray that moving forward, His love will control me no matter the consequences. In Jesus precious name. Now, the church has decided its longtime leader wont be coming back. Thanks for finally being honest. Harvest elders announced this morning that they were forced to take immediate action on Tuesday to end his 30-year tenure. 6. That occurred right after eight former elders sent a letter to the current elder board, claiming that MacDonald was guilty of self-promotionlove of moneydomineering and bullyingabusive speechoutbursts of anger[and] making misleading statements. Harvest countered by accusing those eight former elders of great sin and defiling many people., The three censured elders said Harvest maintained a culture of fear and intimidation that destroyed relationships. To heal enough to communicate and receiving shaming comments like yours. The good intentions of our ministry partnership with Harvest Chicago have been overshadowed by these developments, he said. Harvest, which Roys says is $42 million in debt, is suing the Evangelical Christian Credit Union for not refinancing five of its mortgages. She did not claim it was her trurh , but opinion. May Our Lord guide all of us and May His will be done above all else. My last complaint. Subscribe to CT
Nellie, My faith has been shaken by the situation at another Christian organization. I left the church 4 years ago, the week after 3 elders were publiclyex-communicated on a cheap home made movie not worthy of one wasted second of the worship service. When you started, you (and others) mentioned the cult of personality that James benefitted from. Do elder boards mean anything, or are they just there to look pretty? Thank you for coming forward! I chose to believe the Bible and Gods promises. In his statement released this week, MacDonald continues to criticize the church for its treatment of him and cites the successful arbitration as confirmation that the truth has been on his side all along. I was always greeted with a kiss by a cute missionary girl that went there. Praying for you for healing and for growth and strength during all of this. Will those men now be known for their mark as sinful followers of James? Lina I couldnt agree more with everything you said and your comment here. Hes a lemonade maker. Another blind believer. No One Knows. I was brushed off. In Christian arbitration, the preacher was granted $1.45 million and the rights to Walk in the Word. I didnt want to upset James. What happens next? This is why Jesus did not come to this present church environment. God is purifying His Church. Dont stand in the middle, dont seek to mediate. Did you know that Satan and his minions come to Harvest? Im so sorry, and Im sorry for the comments here that are going to be painful for you. God is purifying His Church. So beautiful. In a statement, the elders indicated they had accepted the apology and, in turn, agreed to leave [the church] alone and let the elder board bring about the necessary reforms.. this isnt meant to hurt you but to support those who need it. I hope that you are recovering well, for you have added a vital piece of information. Quit pointing fingers, justifying why and stirring the pot. Since the publishing of this article, several developments have occurred at Harvest Bible Chapel. Pastor James MacDonald of the Chicago-based seven-multicampus Harvest Bible Church, issued an apology statement on Sunday saying that the board of the megachurch unanimously agreed to lift a discipline ban from three excommunicated elders. He lists grievances against Harvest including a false narrative in financial matters, a hostile takeover, shunning our family, the wrongful seizure of the ministry assets returned to him in the recent arbitration, and a vicious but unsuccessful strategy to end our ministry permanently.. I am sorry I am so late to discover this article but I had to respond to this comment. Well said. Did you realize elders and pastors are personally apologizing g to people? Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists, Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists, Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, revealed material obtained under subpoena, called into Mancow Mullers Chicago-area radio show. Thank You for writing your blog. I simply could not reconcile the lies that were shared from the pulpit with the truths that I knew regarding issues in the church. Do not judge the timing, Gods timing is Always Perfect. No one seems to be able to discern right from wrong anymore. This journey has taken me several years. Not saying thete arent strong christians in leadership at this church but it does always seem that when pride gets in the way of leadership it hurts that person and everyone around them. My heart breaks for the people that have been hurt by this on both sides. In early 2018, reporter Julie Roys, who writes for the conservative evangelical WORLD Magazine, began conducting background research for an article, which was published eight months later under the headline Hard Times at Harvest. New to Harvest and my faith in Christ, I didnt know what was going on and still kinda of unclear of all the details. He kept telling me that I didnt understand authority and I was in rebellion. Sarah, I am so sorry for whatever happened to you. My experience was decades ago and in another state. He stopped going to any church and says he has lost faith in everything. School of the Bible at 9:00am Wednesdaysat 7:00pm Give Online Contact Us 10088 N. Highway 99 Stockton, CA 95212 office@hbcstockton.org (209) 931-9548 Copyright 2023, Harvest Bible Church. I also managed to write an apology to James for the pain I had caused him. Where there is no vision and freedom the people perish. It is those who live in fear. I was mortified. Until then, you are still a wolf in sheeps clothing. Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world. I dont know you personally but appreciate all you continue to teach me and countless others. who we really love. Thank you for opening up your home so that hurting people could come together and share. For me, I would like to apologize for not reaching out to you when I finally realized that you had left HBC. If you ever make that offer again, Ill be there, but please post on Twitter. Mind you, I didnt simply walk out. Lina, you are strong and your faith in the Lord is inspiring. The 60-year-old pastor called on his former church to confess its wrongs and correct the record. Ive been where youre at, believing that its godly to keep trying to work it out, like family does. You too felt you had to leave Harvest and what was your point of conviction on having to leave the Church ,that we all sacrificed so much for! In any case, Im saddened to hear that this happened to James McDonald. This isI believewhy the American church has lost its effectiveness. This post drips of mercy. Different situations require different things. 37For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned. Thank you for your vulnerability. Constantly made to feel stupid, the youth had had enough so the mom called a meeting with the pastor. Because it is time for this cult to be exposed and she is telling her story. Seeing this in your personality it is understandable to me that at first you revered James correction and fell into compliance. I have multiple thoughts. Thats when eight former elders sent a letter to the sitting elder board, warning them that MacDonald was disqualified for office, she said in a response posted Wednesday. But when it happens for reasons like this we should be shouting it but unfortunately we dont always perceive the abuse for what it was/is until we are out of the situation. Letting you know about this is one of the most loving things that Lina can do at this time so that others dont experience the pain that she went through. Fear can lead to many sins. The two entities released separate statements detailing the results of the process, which went through the Institute for Christian Conciliation. It all is about money to pay taxes and building and salaries. Several years went by and one family apologized to us as did another man. 102 reviews of Faith Church "I have been to a few churches in my day. The fired senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel megachurch is contending, in a new lawsuit, that an attorney and accountants hired by the church took part in a "smear . I didnt want to be rebellious against authority. My coworker who was Catholic and going through a painful divorce, was led to Christ by me. Reflect about yourself and what steps you need to take to be healed and then to help others heal. Im sure I will find much more to comment on, but I hope to leave it at that as an encouragement to you. God wins the war. Because Jeff is still lying to peoples faces with a smug grin as recently as Saturday night. Until recently, I was 8 year member of HBC and I feel so sad, confused, betrayed. As painful as it is, all that has been hidden must be revealed. I would recommend A book Joy Starts Here and The Pandora Problem Facing Narcissism in Leaders & Ourselves as helpful to possibly understand how whats happened can be explained and perhaps bring healing and prevention as members move forward. Nellie, you know what Lina went through in prep for this how? Elgin Quick Links Baptisms, February 19th Now its a big business with Harvest all over the states. I dont appreciate you getting political this has nothing to do with it.. Are you referring to the Democratic Party? My response, Why? Because ultimately what God wants is not a huge army of women who are nice. Precept Inductive Bible Study for Women. It is loving to tell the truth. James ended up sending me a copy of the new approved blog post, and out of fear, I complied. Could you provide me with a link please. Voices heard together make a difference. As questions about how Harvest Bible Fellowship money was used ballooned, the pressure mounted. Thank you Lina for your honesty and boldness and ultimately helping me put words to what I have been experiencing through the preaching of James. Were they afraid? I left Harvest about a year before you did, and I also stayed, for the most part, silent out of the same fear you described. Please have your Passports Ready. Sounds like your faith in self is overwhelming only yourself! We cant judge the HEART of others, we can judge their actions and behaviors. Maybe people could handle hearing it better now than then. The founder of a Chicago megachurch has been fired as its leader. If you know anything about abusive relationshipsHBC is in the honeymoon phase right now.look it up!! Maybe you were called in front of the elders and asked to rewrite because thats horrendous theology and an awful way to be an ambassador for the Gospel. This is an extra difficult time for the members and regular attenders of Harvest Bible Chapel. Gods hand is on Harvest and the dark is continuing to be shown. This did not happen to James, he did this, by sinning repeatedly. But dont shame others who speak up. So much good was happening at Harvest, surely it must have Gods blessing. Blessings to you! Through it all, our relationship with Christ was strengthened all the more. Therefore, we are at our most open to hurt. Ive always appreciated your candor and honesty, and I think the Lord has gifted you with a strong sense of discernment. Those of us that have experienced spiritual abuse and church hurt personally can truly resonate with your story. They all need to be excised ( fired ), along with number one enabler extraordinaire of James, Rick Donald, along with the MacDonald boys, along with every single campus pastor and the other pastors, and throw in the worship leaders ( they are all complicit ), then the cancer would have been completely removed and the body ( the good people of Harvest that are being fleeced ) would have a chance to heal and become part of a true biblical church. I didnt know you personally, but was a part of and benefited from the many programs that you offered through womens ministry. :) I met my husband about 5 yrs ago and he had been attending faith community church for a bit. James has all the characteristics of a false teacher. My daughter had been bullied by both Luke and James, in the presence of other adults, several times over her years in the youth group and yet I did not leave. On January 16th, MacDonald took an indefinite sabbatical leave. Until recently, I thought I had escaped my fear by leaving Harvest, but I was still afraid. Our family was kicked out of our church plant campus and everyone at the church was told not to talk to us because we were disobedient by speaking out against the things were were seeing. The leader of that church, John Secrest, was blindsided by the news and asked Harvest elders to reconsider allowing MacDonald to preach there. I love this idea! I have 3 small groups now that are like this but we lack music. It was love at first sight!! I was pleasantly surprised to find that you know each other. Now you can stop going to church altogether and free your mind from religious delusion. Thank you for speaking out, Lina! 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