I wish someone with money or connections would help these families hire a private investigator or lawyer to access additional details on the case. I dont buy it at all. Carter says a vehicle was parked at the old CPS/DCS Welfare building in Delphi on the east side of County Road 300 North, next to the Hoosier Heartland Highway between noon and 5 p.m. February 14, 2017. In October, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. He is a serial killer. Guys is used by midwesterners to address both sexes. "We dont release it to the media because then everyone and their brother would know, and its common to get false confessions from mentally disturbed people. As described in the news stories about his trial by the late Daily Local reporter and editor Shirley McCauley, the case against Garnett was largely circumstantial. The texts from the guy who found the girls say they were not posed. The only thing I can think of is that he was comparing body to body three unusual things done to/with each body. Also in the thread is a link to a compilation of his TikTok video posts and his voice sounds like the voice of the Bridge Guy. No mention of him being a suspect in the case of Abby and Libby. Nor have they released the cause of death, but certain horrific details have been leaked. WebDelphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England, UK. I remember doing all kinds of dangerous stupid shit as a teenager. LE released the only the 2nd sketch shortly after the murders. They need to take their time and make sure they get it right and have the evidence they need to convict. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). There's been a lot of criticism of the police fumbling and taking forever. Kelly's room was less than 10' X 10', whoever entered immediately saw the blue eyes glistening at them from a bloody cut-up corpse. I still think he meant to abduct them but they messed up his plans by running and he had to recapture them. They do say it..a couple of them summarize it. R192 My understanding is the Facebook page had a photo of an amateur singer as the profile photo. This is one of the cases I try to follow pretty often, and when it happened I never thought we'd be this far along with no leads and no new information. Where was Brenda Dickson? If it does turn out to be this person the cops fucked up (and they fucked up anyway) not finding his phone in the initial search and giving him time to wipe it. And what if the BG was wearing some kind of disguise? He doesnt have a beer gut, hulking arms, or short sausage legs. There is a similarity in the way they speak. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. My fear is the tattoo could mean another victim. The cops need to release more of the recording, unedited. Maybe the killer used sticks to make crosses near the girls' bodies. The central piece of evidence that police had secured was a statement from Garnett in which he told them that he had, indeed, committed the murder. To make him nervous, paranoid that detective knows something about him or who he is? You're funny, r3, but the story really is horrifying. Two of these, the pictures from the Delphi murders, were found at the crime scene. nothing left behind in a sexual assault) or even dog DNA, since one victim was possibly bitten by a dog at some point. R211, I think people do it for plausible deniability reasons, in case the person they're talking about happens across any accusations. She had blood under her fingernails. [post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Most serial killers have a "type" of victim that they fantasize about about. It was emphasized that the police department felt like the perpetrator was present at the briefing. That thread was very interesting. If someone has knowledge of nonpublic information about the cause of death, they probably did it or know who did. Kline reportedly admitted to police that he'd use the bogus accounts to talk to underage girls, contacting both people he knew and didnt know. We all are speculating because we know nothing except what has been released to the public, which is strangely very little. Agree R183. Those poor, poor girls. only psychoes believe what he "makes up". Articulate in the use of terms of art through practice. R435, it could also speak to the outfits for that area. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in the neighbourhood of Hampstead, which is located in the city of London, England, UK. [quote] Libertys father fingered two meth dealers. This idea that they were lured there or they revealed on SM where they would be is very interesting. The enforcer would come in, commit the crime, cover it up with the second child's murder, and leave the area. Until then, I continue to binge the podcast "Down the Hill". A good case can take time to develop. It would have echoed in the woods far and wide. Lawrence, who is now 51 and lives in Wyndmoor, Montgomery County, said he had made approaches to see Garnett and talk about the case. I fell down into a rabbit hole of podcasts (they are several good ones devoted to this story) and Reddit threads. State police say the person behind the account used photos of a male model and "portrayed himself as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars.". I dont think its this guy. The girls were stabbed, right? She had a career in acting and is most remembered for her roles in The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959), and The Avengers (1959). Why could they be the suspect. Im not sure how that fits with religious iconography. My theory is that it was catfishing through Snapchat to abuse Libby. Later in Part II, they show video footage of a press conference held with the sheriff positioned behind the officer leading the conference. Because I'm obsessed with this case, on the forums I read several people have had interactions with this profile and are turning info into the police. Assuming everything in that video at R500 is accurate it's pretty convincing. 40s? If Cheyenne did indeed call 911, the tape should be released. And yes, their deaths were violent. There had to have been a sexual component, whether they were sexually assaulted or not. I remember there was a long thread (or more than one) about this when it happened. The audio of a mans voice saying down the hill was seconds long and was released free of video. The police sketch that LE recently released (where the guy looks younger) was actually the first police sketch that was drawn. Give Light and the People Will Find Their Own Way, Indianapolis, IN Interactive Weather Radar, Libby German's sister hopes Twitter can help find her killer, A look at the property where two missing teen girls were found dead, ISP call Liberty German a 'hero' for capturing audio, photos of suspect. But then, if he was, was that track common knowledge, or do you think he saw the girls earlier and followed them down? That's it. Also, highly probable phone got bumped during violence that caused it to stop recording. Delphi Lawrence died on April 11, 2002 at the age of 70 years. However, if there's a whole ring behind this anthony_shots profile, maybe that's what they're trying to get him to expose. Abby's mother said that Abby would have put on makeup and done her hair if she were planning to meet a boy at the bridge that day. R345, we already established that the tattoo was on his arm before the Delphi murders. This is not the situation with the Abby & Libby investigation. These girls owed drug miney? While specifying a bullet was found at the scene, nowhere in the document does it suggest that either of the two girls was shot. You can't see any such thing in a pic so low-res and Occam's Razor says it's just oversized/bulky clothing. The woman hasnt posted back in 5 days I wonder if shes ok and if she was telling the truth! Libby's phone was reset about a week before the murders, the guy's phone was reset to delete data after the murders. Indiana State Police previously said that autopsies were carried out on I live in Indiana and LE mentioned at one time the girls were controlled by the mans dogs and the bodies had bite marks. Thank you for the updates. @R318-- Excellent analysis. A virtual walkthrough of the scene of the Delphi murders provides a look at how the suspect likely approached Abby Williams and Libby German. I think the face on that tattoo is exactly what her poor face looked like when he left her there for LE. What was the other one? My two cents: In Part I, after the initial sketch of the Bridge Man was first shared with the audience, the next image/picture/scene was a close up of the sheriff who looked strikingly similar to the sketched image of the suspect. There is a photo on the internet of Libby in her casket. At least this case isnt 30 years old like some others and they solve it. A FB member of the group made the connection about a year ago and sent screen grabs to the Delphi Murders investigators. A second sketch was released at the press conference held on April 22, 2019. James Chadwell should have been killed by the cops whrn they found the naked, sexually abused and beaten till almost dead, 9 year old girl locked in his basement. What really strikes me, though, is the photos from the Facebook account. But who knows what they are. Sometimes a hatchet is mentioned as being the murder weapon. He said that Libby's body was nude and placed near Abby's body. Google The Delphi murders/reddit/images. In the attack he was arrested for, her family says the 9 year old was bleeding out of her eyes from the strangulation? eta: The blood and tissue under Libby's fingernails might be her own. Can we link to Reddit on here? Somehow, the meth revenge killing is less horrifying than a random sadistic redneck preying on two kids in a crime of opportunity R219 No, hes popped up on the new sub, Today is the Day, sounding defensive and even fishier. The killer could have used fishing line as a garrote. If she were being strangled, she would have tried to pull the fishing line or rope away from her neck. The video shows to me a broad-shouldered guy with long skinny legs. Im new to the case and Im sure anything I can think of someone has already asked.. Also, they havent really answered questions in the past, why now? Fouts also was a lawyer against Derrick's case in 2011 (35-43-4-2(a)/FD: Theft, 35-48-4-14.5(c)/FD: Possess Anhydrous Ammonia/Ammonia Solution w/ Intent To Manufacture Drug). You could also do it yourself at any point in time. The FBI hadn't been involved there either. I just finished part II. Of course he is. I think this thread has a link to the helicopter photos. To me its his hunched back posture that ages him. But if they don't have DNA then they'll never be able to prove it. But Leigh Kerr may also be a frustrated insider/outsider LE. Please complete the process by verifying your email address. The trial, in which the prosecution sought the death penalty against the then 19-year-old Garnett, lasted from Monday through Saturday night, and was featured on the front page of the Daily Local News each day. My best guess, and I believe this has been said by many people, is that the details around the cause of death are known to only a select number of people, including the killer(s). In the days following the girls murders, Libby was heralded a hero by state police for having the presence of mind to begin recording at the time she did. This case is just so frustrating. I hadnt read about that case. This presumed lack of DNA is one reason why people believe the girls weren't sexually assaulted. People could not believe it, Lawrence said. We dont know how far this person or persons might have walked through that area. The victim type is essential to their rape, kill fantasy. When you're shown information that contradicts whatever rumor it is you want to believe, you get huffy about it. At least information followed into or brought to the attention by the investigators. READ | Investigators say internet rumors can hinder search for Delphi killer. Why was there no mention of two girls screaming loudly while being stabbed to death? A truck driver maybe or someone whose job requires travel. We likely have interviewed you or someone close to you. The only way that happens imo, is if he hit 1 with a blunt object to incapacitate her- and you can figure out the rest. I think the best bet is to keep watching the video and listening to the audio. Police may soon be allowed to collect DNA samples from anyone accused not only convicted of a felony in the state. People have suggested they didnt scream because BG held a gun on them. I do hope the killer is not in or related to LE and being protected. Leazenby later announced they were imposing a media blackout on possible suspects in the killings of Libby and Abby moving forward. It would have saved the county the cost of a trial. Ridiculous to argue over whether it was/was not of Libby specifically. This is one of the most frustrating unsolved crimes to me. ENOUGH. We have no idea if LE has DNA, but the assumption is they don't or we would have heard of it being used to find the killer by now. The original sketch could be a young but unfit/chubby man and to me there is a definite resemblance. Not sure why, when the whole thing is grotesque. I don't understand how people see a gun and a knife in that sweet little puppy he used to lure the girls down the hill. Please click here to update your account with a username and password. Immediately before the abduction, one girl posted a photo of her friend walking on the bridge to Snapchat. But I dont think in this case it was someone who knew these girls. Im guessing Gelsons or The Abbey with her twink coke whores. "We've likely interviewed you or someone close to you.". Delphi Lawrences income source is mostly from being a successful Actress. i feel like they need some help from some higher sources. Just that I assume he was some sort of transient. 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