In all, these seem like well-made, well-thought-out guns. It does have better fit and finish than the Stoeger, but I may be getting an M3k 3-Gun as backup (and even use in some matches). That puts these guns in competition with Weatherbys 18i Waterfowl ($1,249) Fabarms L4S Initial Hunter ($1,375), and Brownings Silver Black Lightning ($1,229.99). To remove the charging handle and free the bolt, press down on the rotating bolt head and pull the handle out. Learn more . Theater of popular music. If you like speed, you can sacrifice 1/8 ounce of pellets for 200 fps more velocity. Definitely needs to have a reversible safety (I'm left handed). I have a M3K on hold. The 3-inch shotshells carried a muzzle velocity of 1,550 fps and a shot charge of 1 1/8 ounces. In our tests, the Super Black Eagle 3, M2, and Ethos Cordoba all shot high, which is typical of newer Benellis. (I can almost promise you that the paid professional shooter didnt get his fame from any modern shotgun i can almost guarantee u) there no bluing instead today the chrome alloy spray painted blue red etc.. That means that inertia guns like the Affinity Elite tend to be reliable and are less demanding to maintain than most gas-operated semi-autos. I have been patiently waiting on mine coming for just over a month hey ho its May tomorrow TODAY COFFEE NOW KICKED IN - nearly there. At about 6 pounds, its a pleasant gun to handle, and its 28-inch barrel gives it a nice feel. Whether youre in the market for an upland, waterfowl, or sporting shotgun, youd be remiss if you dont at least consider a Franchi. A 3-inch hull sends an ounce of shot at around 1350 fps which, in my opinion, is fast enough. From:North east. The guns lightweight anodized aluminum receiver is drilled and tapped for mounting optics, and Affinity Elite shotguns come with a TRUGLO Dual Color Fiber Optic Front Bead thats bright and easy to see in any light conditions. My M2 has benne beat to shit over the years and she has never failed me, it doesnt matter the weather or temp she functions as if shes brand new. It wont be the old Model31 shotgun!! After shooting a few rounds with it, I was impressed. All Franchi Affinity. By making nuanced alterations to the grip, drop, cast, pitch, and length of pull on the Affinity, their premier shotgun has been modified to sit comfortably in a womans build. By The only advantage to the M2 seems to be the comfortech stock resulting in less recoil. Light and extremely popular, the Mossberg 500 comes in a 20-gauge black synthetic version that makes it a good choice as a duck gun you dont have to baby. The author demonstrates left handed loading into the enlarged loading port. This Brit dusted a clay target at 130 yards. I just picked up an elite last week. Put the gun through its paces over the weekend. But the franchi to me feels like a better fit for me. to me, I look at this as I would do when buying parts for my car. Check availability here. I might pull the trigger on the 24" compact for him, glad to see this thread today. Is benelli worth the price? It comes with a choice of 28- or 30-inch barrels and extended chokes, andin a genius moveCZ has put tiny magnets in the ejectors that are just strong enough to keep a shell from falling out when you tip the gun to load it. This shotgun has been severely overlooked in the 3-gun world in my opinion. At least a decade prior, I had put my hands on the AL 48, a square-backed repeater with an operating system based on John Brownings long-recoil Auto-5. This means that as the shooter grows up, they can keep their Affinity with them the whole time until theyre ready to turn it into a full-size. It features matte walnut with swivel studs and olive Cerakote on the receiver and barrel. I was hunting with my friend Jim, and within an hour of the opening of the hunt we were already closing in on our limits of birds. Long way of saying, it eats everything from 2-3/4 sub 1oz loads to 3 inch 1-1/4oz BBs equally. The Affinity's pattern was one of the best of the test guns, placing 124 of a possible 140 pellets (88 percent) inside the 30-inch circle. I looked at them in person, and examined pictures of parts and parts diagrams and compared that to what I knew about my M2. And for the record.I am no longer sponsored by Benelli / Stoeger. It comes in a wide range of options, from black synthetic to full-camo waterfowl models. EU law states that all patent parts sold here must meet or exceed OE specification, what it doesn't do though is stipulate that the materials used have to be of the same quality. I think the Franchi is Benelli's idea of what a Stoeger should be. The Franchi is similar to the M2 but not the same. As New Franchi Affinity Elite 3.5" steel proofed semi auto camo ex shop demo shot twice. Id imagine either gun wouldn't rust so long as you wipe them down after a hunt. In fact, i would have rather burned my 500 than pay for it. Once considered appropriate only for the small-framed and recoil-shy, theyre now a fad among waterfowlers of all sizes and experience levels. Bringing You Honest, Reliable, and Engaging Firearm News and Reviews. This means that as the shooter grows up, they can keep their Affinity with them the whole time until theyre ready to turn it into a full-size. Inertia operation is quick and clean. I went to Cabelas with intentions of buying the 3.5 A-5. Or, you can shoot just a sprinkling of TSS mixed with steel in Federals Black Cloud TSS, which combines both No. The lone component of the gun that does not move back with each shot is the floating bolt body. Well Known Rokslider. JavaScript is disabled. Have an m2 and love it.owned many franchi shotguns and couldn't say anythin bad about them. Maybe someone can hotlink the vid for me! Originally known as the Model 1300, the gun was redesigned, improved, and outsourced to Turkey after Winchesters New Haven plant closed. After shooting a reliable browning maxus for quite some time I was lookin to swap to inertia driven shotgun for what was then the upcoming 17-18 season. Anybody have a Franchi? Positioned as Benelli's mid-price brand, Franchi has become a favorite of a lot of hunters. Gun Dog Premium is the go-to choice for sporting dog owners and upland hunting enthusiasts. Theyre both Benellis. Benelli has 10 yr warranty. Joe Genzel Nonetheless, they are excellent auto-loaders at a price point most waterfowlers can afford. Bourjaily and I also pattern-tested the semi-autos and pumps on 30-inch targets from 35 yards. Lastly, owners of an Affinity dont have to worry about the durability and long-term ability of their shotgun. 276 US$332/314. Frustrating. Not Yet Rated View Available Options. Add to Compare. They look huge up close. Like I didn't buy a different model Benelli, similar but not the same as the M2. He got it for a steal at about 400 on clearance from dicks sporting goods. Joined. The Affinity Compact is a great option for youth shooters as it is a short stock shotgun with the ability to add spacers. this in turn usually leads to a lower life expectancy of the part. Like other Franchi products, the Affinity Elite shotguns are backed by the brands seven-year warranty. In the past week my best friend and his dad along with me got the elite and put them through clays and birds out in Missouri and are mega happy. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. Check availability here. I've heard a lot of folks getting torn between the Franchi Affinity and the Benelli M2, and it's easy to see why. Zero issues. Built in a very modern, high-tech factory in Turkey, they are well fit and finished. Shop said it would be 6-8 weeks! 3 shot with good success on ducks and geese) and tungsten-iron HeviShot and HeviX let you shoot a 20 with confidence out to 35 yards and more. Thanks brother! It would have been better to shoot clays with the Franchi before trying to hit real, live, hard-flying ducks, but the Affinity Elite does make an admirable clay target gun that handles recoil very well and shoots flat. just took a look on gun trader and only one second hand Affinity but loads of M2s so do not know where the info comes from, Not sure if you know but there is a shipment coming in mid May then add on time to get them out to fulfill backorders etc. That 10ga packs a wallop on ducks and geese. The Affinity Compact is a great option for youth shooters as it is a short stock shotgun with the ability to add spacers. However if you buy a pattern part copied from the Bosch Volvo part made by another manufacturer at a price point then that's something different! During our test, each editor took note of how the shotguns handled as well as their craftsmanship, reliability, versatility, and overall value. Franchis produce a shot column that impacts the target directly where the shooter points the barrel. Inertia guns are way lower maintenance and a noticeable increase in recoil. Benelli also offers an M2 Field model that has fewer bells and whistles, but is very similar and costs more than $1,000 less. Thread starter leroy; Start date Apr 26, 2019; Apr 26, 2019 #1 L. leroy Senior Member. And to the low brass shells problem with the Franchi, I have seen it on occasion, but for the majority of the time when shooting clay pigeons, they have not acted up. M2 charging handles also fit without modification. The Affinity is available in a left-handed model as well, another rarity for mid-level auto-loaders. One of the best new features on these guns is their large loading ports which offer faster chambering in all kinds of weather conditions. [14] Franchi Affinity Elite Series. All rights reserved. that's why you can get bosch parts at a lower price point from a factor than a dealer. In this Gunivore review, were gonna be doing a rundown on a few of the most popular models in, Stock Description: Realtree Max-5 Synthetic, Ive got to give credit to Franchi for expanding the Affinity Series to include models better fit for young and female shooters. Jun 24, 2014. Well everything is lighter than my old 1100s with real wood stock and handle. Specifically after waching your video.i like both the M3K and Franchi but like everyone looking for function and best bang for my buck theboth seem like really good options for the novice like my self. I have shot 3.5" but don't think it's a huge improvement. Went with the benelli SBE 3, is for sons high school graduation present. Subscribe to my channel and you'll get the vids as they come out. Recreational and practical applications abound with these .22 caliber handguns. or do I buy patent parts from a motor factor? The downside of minimal weight is, of course, added recoil, but the Affinity 3 Elite is very manageable thanks in large part to the guns TSA recoil pad which is dense and lacks sharp edges to hang-up in vests or clothing while mounting. Franchis are amongthe most overlooked shotguns on the market. It looks awesome but that's out of budget. Able's and other online shops have decent deals on the Franchis. You do have to run hotter shells to keep it running when you put more than 9-10 shells in the tube. The Affinity 3 is available in 20- and 12-gauge and in a variety of exterior finishes, including black synthetic, Mossy Oak Bottomland, Realtree Max-5, satin walnut, and a Cerakote barrel and receiver coupled with Max-5 or Optifade camo on the stock and fore-end. I put the TTI Benelli carrier in (fits perfectly), the TTI extended safety on, and a Nordic extension tube with lightweight teflon follower. I don't have a need for the altered lifter nor the bolt handleBut we do like to personalize our gear with "chrome bits". The Affinity 3 Waterfowl Elite is also available with a Gore Optifade Waterfowl Marsh stock with Burnt Bronze Cerakote metalwork in your choice of 12- or 20-gauge with a 3-inch chamber. The Affinity performed well with 3-inch Federal TSS, Fiocchi Flyway Series, and Winchesters new Bismuth load, cycling every round without hesitation and without any of the finagling thats sometimes required of other guns. But ask me again in 5-10 years, seems like every semiauto I've had eventually started giving me problems. With the Affinity, it was easy to load and operate the gun with gloves on, and while virtually every shotgun company now offers oversized controls, the Affinity 3 Waterfowl Elites controls were the easiest that Ive used. Also I don't like the dual pistons that the SA-08 has. I have a preference for longer-barrelled semi-autos but a semi-automatic has the advantage - as far as its sighting plane is concerned - of a long receiver. The Benelli's recoil spring is in the buttstock, while the Franchi's recoil spring resides around the magazine tube. Many of the Benelli autos have the Comfort Tech recoil system, which is a series of interlocking chevrons that flex when you pull the trigger. I'm looking to purchase a new semi auto for duck hunting. Check availability here. . Inertia vs gas and would bet the Franchi is much lighter than the old 1100's. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Standard 28ga. The 20-gauge Waterfowl Hunter version with camo synthetic stock is matched with Browning/Winchesters very effective Inflex recoil pad. I have not been treated that well by a company in a long time. Is the Beneilli name worth $500 that is something you need to decide. To drop the trigger group, punch out the single pin that holds it in place, and youre done. These semi-automatic shotguns are offered in a variety of sizes, gauges, finishes, weights, stocks, and even left-handed models. I had a small issue with the affinity sticking on the recoil but it was a spring issue and their customer service was amazing. on the face of it the parts look the same, fit the same and some are even made by the same company. Plus, Franchi also attached a soft recoil pad to make shooting more comfortable even on those all day long hunts. Have one transferred to your local FFL. With the shim kits that come with both shotguns fit the gun to the user has never been more versatile. The difference Ive found in shooting a Franchi versus a Benelli is in the pattern. There were no obtrusive transitions from the stock to receiver and receiver to fore-end in our test gun. Flush Choke Tube. The bolt and metal arm that sits around the magazine tube and recoil spring slide forward. Your link has been automatically embedded. no extra mark ups, just different materials used. I now have a Benelli M2 - not had a single problem from it so far (not to say it will never fail). Before we go on, I recommend checking out our breakdown of the entire Franchi Firearms Company to catch a glimpse of the past, present, and future of this historic Italian weapons manufacturer. Oem parts from the dealer are marked up 3-4 times before they get in the hands of the customer! The Affinity 3 was the second Franchi auto-loader I ever shot. Want to spend less than $1,300. Both work very well. Franchi Affinity 3 Elite 12 Gauge 28" OPTIFADE Waterfowl Timber Cobalt Shotgun 41230 The Redhead is the flagship model of the 11-gun All Terrain lineup. But 40 yards is also the extent to which most hunters are comfortable with a shotgun, so our team decided to pattern the guns at a more reasonable distance and settled on 35 yards. The Affinity line has been a huge success for Franchi and has made the brand more popular than ever, but it was time to give their flagship semi-auto a facelift. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Benelli M2 24" $1300 black only 2. (Photo By: Brad Fitzpatrick). Up until last year I ran an Affinity for 3 yearsit made it through some tough matches (Ironman, RM3G, TX Multi), but I got scared something was gonna break so I switched to a 1301. The loading port is beveled so you can easily slide shotshells into the magazine. If the internal work is done correctly, you do not need to take off a bunch of material. Normally, shotguns are patterned at 40 yards because thats typically the distance most shotguns will struggle to print a pattern that will kill ducks. Retay has its own take on the click-proof bolt that does away with the dreaded inertia click misfire. This is a breakdown of every 3-gun relevant part in the Franchi Affinity compared to the more popular (and more expensive) Benelli M2. That sucks about where you're at, not sure what 3-gun matches are local to you. Is there something I'm not considering that fits my parameters? I've just bought the Franchi, itching to take it out just haven't had the weather. By Phil Bourjaily | Published Jun 4, 2012 11:47 PM EDT. Franchi 12 gauge Falconet Over and Under Shotgun (R/H) - S/H. The Italians are detail-oriented gunmakers, and its clear the Affinity 3 was well designed. Just finished my franchi. I'm having a gunsmith put the Briley extended bolt release on and am having the loading port opened (not as much as some people) and beveled (professionally). My post count isn't high enough to post links yet, but if you search for "Franchi Affinity vs Benelli M2 for 3-Gun" on YouTube, it's the first result. Since I am a snap shooter, I like a gun that shoots exactly where I point it. Every semi-auto Franchi Ive shot since the AL 48 has felt good in the hand. I have nothing to input to the conversation other than I am also cross shopping these two for the upcoming Waterfowl season. Other key features found on the Affinity 3 Elite models are removable trigger groups, chrome-lined barrel (the Upland also features a chrome bolt and bolt handle), Franchis Precision Cone Patterning forcing cones, and three extended choke tubes rated for close, mid, and long-range shots. It also never failed to cycle and pointed damn well. By cutting down excess weight and incorporating their simplistic Inertia Driven System, Franchi gave these shotguns excellent swing and balance. Check availability here. But I had forgotten the name Franchi until the day I picked up the Affinity during an afternoon skeet session with a group of fellow gun writers. Also, dont forget that with the mobile choke system, you have rapid changing of pattern density and spread in seconds. ETA: whereabouts are you in Iowa? Several of us did. I have an Affinity 20 gauge for upland birds and a Benelli M2 21" for 3-gun matches. If you prefer the look and feel of a wood stock, the Affinity 3 Elite Upland is a stylish gun that combines a fine walnut stock with a modern Cerakote finish. However, Franchis 7-year warranty on their shotguns is a pretty sweet reassurance. The trigger group drops out with the push of a button, too. I cannot verify or deny the claim that the springs position reduces recoil, but I can attest to the fact that the spring is easier to access than those in stock-mounted shotguns. My kids new Affinity compact has not properly ejected a dove shell yet. Check availability here. I have an affinity and a montefeltro. FRANCHI AFFINITY VS SBE 3. You cannot paste images directly. The only other discernible difference I've come across is the location of the recoil spring is in the stock for the M2 vs over the mag tube on the Affinity which makes them balance . Field & Stream is dedicated to covering safe and responsible gun ownership for hunting, recreation, and personal protection. If youd prefer to shoot an O/U at waterfowl, the CZ All-Terrain line is worth a hard look. Never fired an M2 but shouldered one in 20 gauge and loved it. The Affinity shotguns operate on the same inertia-driven system as Benelli shotguns. When you attach an optic to a hunting shotgun, you gotta keep it simple and effective. It shot 70 percent below and 30 percent above point of aim, leaving a small gap on the right side of the target. With its rotary bolt, the SXP is a gun so smooth you can pump it almost without conscious thought, even if youre not a practiced slide-action shooter. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. This gun has literally been dropped in the slough, then kicked around because I was trying to find it with my feet in waders, halfway stepped on and then brought to surface. Can't wait for it to be delivered. Hunt the Mississippi River primarily. What did the pattern result in? Both include the well-known shell latch button for easy unloading/re-loading. But far more hunters choose 20s just because they enjoy shooting the smaller guns. 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