Curated Ski Experts Daryl Morrison and Hayden Wright tested the 2023 Atomic Bent Chetler 100 at Powder Mountain in Utah this spring. Salomon added basalt and doubled the amount of carbon and flax in the QST 99 for 2019. Looking to complement my 177cm Monster 83's with either a 186 or 191 Enforcer 100. The nice thing about sizing ski poles is that it's relatively straight foreword. Skiers looking for that wider one-ski quiver, this QST 98 does it all. I'm looking for an all-mountain ski in the 100mm waist range. Beginner skiers are classified as people who have never ever skied, right up to those just starting to dabble in Intermediate trails. So, I was wondering which pair you would recommend considering that and the fact that I am not a fan of carving and I usually ski in Canada where the snow is often hard and pretty icy? What do you think about those for my needs? Matt, Hi Andrew! You are looking for the nicest skis ever made. This guide is for Alpine Skis. I love my Bonafide (crushing it yesterday at Breck) but I'm getting old and pushing 2 sheets of metal wearing me out. We felt the 99 fits better with the "All-Mountain" moniker a bit better than the 102, which leans more to the "Freeride" side of the spectrum. Does it seem more like a confidence problem taking on icy conditions thats holding me back, or is this stiff metal ski not meant for what I am trying to make it do? Have a great season on the slopes. Skiers with very loose Achillies tendons and strong ankles will particularly enjoy these noodles. . Would I like them here on the east as much? Skiers who prefer speed and flotation in the fresh snow. Thanks, The Rustler is a bit more of a twin-tip shape, so the tail releases easier than the Pinnacle. I guess id be more toward the beginner side of intermediate. Metal is just making the ski heavier without really providing any benefit if you don't need the extra vibration damping and stability at speed. Arguably one of the most soft-snow oriented skis of this article. Have fun! HI Mitchell! 2021 Atomic Bent Chetler Junior Skis w/ Salomon N L7 Bindings | AA0028224K. Buy the skis for the conditions you do ski versus the conditions you want to ski. SE. Just for mogul performance, the 93 will be quicker and easier than the 100. Hi Tom! Versus the Ranger 99, it's certainly got more of a carving/on-trail persona, but isn't quite the floater or crud-buster that the Fischer certainly is. Going with a wider ski would actually slow your progression a little bit. The tip rocker profile is on the longer side, but theres not a whole lot of natural tail rocker up until the twin-tipped shape. Can you compare the 2 i mentioned. Most of my skiing is on the east vs west and I often dont travel west with my skis. The Mantra M5, Rossignol Experience 94, Salomon QST 92 or the Blizzard Rustler 9 should be at the top of your list. Much lighter, more rocker, less metal, etc. Hi Cody! Thanks for the great reviews. For that dual-coast one-ski quiver, the 95-100 underfoot range is pretty awesome. Hi Nicole! Each of these skis offers their own unique set of attributes, performance characteristics, and overall feel. Atomic removes a serious amount of material from the center of the ski, which really brings the overall weight down. I'm 5'9, 165 pounds, and I'm a predominantly east coast skier. Now, to skis. Also check out Volkl 90Eight and Nordica Enforcer 100. Built with Blizzards True Blend wood core, these Bonafides blend poplar and beech stringers to maximize performance while keeping the ski at least somewhat manageable. If you're looking for a more playful ski, than the BC 100 is a great choice, but if you're looking to ski on the more aggressive/hard-charging side of things, the Enforcer 100 is pretty tough to beat. Characteristics of an advanced skier would be: the ability to ski most, if not all trails, an ability to ski fast, regular ability to ski off trail, and more traditionally, the ability to link full carving turns at full speed. 34% Off $725.00. Are there any other skis other than the ones I've already looked at worth taking into consideration? Still have questions? At its very hearth, though, this is still very much Mantra-esque, with precision and power to spare, not like youd want to. Performs really well on firm snow, but is also fairly capable in soft snow. . I've had to stay away from the mantra the past few years due to their lack of camber..is the 2019 M5 the year I should come back? The Kore (93 I'd recommend for you) is light but stiff. I was leaning towards the Rustler 10 but the QST sounds good too. Find your street shoe size on the chart, determine men's, women's, or kid's, and find the corresponding Mondo size! Supremely versatile and well-rounded, the Ranger 102 FR is great for everything from floating to carving with park stuff in between. SE, Hi SE! Find your street shoe size on the chart, determine men's, women's, or kid's, and find the corresponding Mondo size! I took skiing lessons from a very young age (6 years or something) so I am also a technical skier. In most cases, this is the right call, but skiers should be geo-conscious before buying more than they can handle. Weight: Theres no easy way to say it, but skiers who are carrying around a bit of extra weight should consider staying to the higher side of the scale. Hope that helps! What do you think? Check it out! Skiers that value edge grip, stability, and a stiff, powerful ski will fall in love with the MX 99. July 13, 2018 by Luke Koppa. With Armadas Articulated Titanal Banding, skiers are able to use this wider shovel to their advantage, as its supple and damp enough to rip through crud and chop while being stable and strong enough to hold a strong edge on the corduroy. If youre looking to buy a powder ski, the natural notion is to go a bit longer. While most skis out there have a speed limit, these have a speed minimum. I don't think the bit of extra flotation you'll get is enough to sway the overall performance of the ski. This, combined with the vertical sidewall underfoot tapering to half-cap in the tips and tails makes for an incredibly versatile ski that is properly built for the everyday advanced skier. I just sold my Bonafides and I am looking for something more playful. Especially in soft snow and powder. It's one of the ones without any structural metal to it, relying on Fischer's Air Core with carbon nose to generate quickness and edge grip. I've been skiing a totally different ski, Cochise, there awesome if I'm on my A game and want to rip but I'm getting older find them a bear anymore. Is 177 right for the use I'm intending or should I size up to 184. The 169 Enforcer 100 would probably be more akin to the 172 Atomic. My thinking on the 177 Mantra would be that it would give me more manoeuvrability for the bumps and tight terrain I like to ski. Thanks! I'm trying to decide what ski to get next and was hoping to get some guidance from you guys. SE. Overall, the QST is a fantastic ski that will do it all. I'd like a pair of skis that will let me fully appreciate the west coast snow, and let me further my skills in ungroomed areas. Glad to hear you've got some new boots that are working well for you! Any other ski suggestions are welcome as well of course Ski Sizing can be tricky, thanks to a combination of the ever changing ski technology. Before switching to a snowboard I was skiing for 12 years. The Kore, in my opinion, feels more focused on off-piste maneuverability than anything else. Hi Murray! Looking for something a little lighter and more directional than the Bacons that I can have fun on on less than stellar days, improve my trad skiing skills on (lessons on Bacons is kinda counter-productive) and still practice some switch and jumps (hoping to nail 180 and maybe 360 this season). If you're looking to blend light weight and performance, I'd take a strong look at the Elan Ripstick 96, or 106, if you're looking for wider. Great stability, good float, and awesome versatility. I need to detune the tips and tail a bit on the BC. Wish I could give you more info on the Sick Day 104, but I will say considering my experience with all these skis, I don't think it would be quite as playful as the QST. Really honest and good ideas. Out West, where things are a bit more open, its not uncommon to see skiers on skis much taller than themselves. Much like the previous Kastle MX 98 on this list, the Enforcer 100 absolutely demolishes crud and chopplowing through it like its not even there. Talk to a Skier: href='/Chairlift-Chat/DPS-Phantom-2-Wax-System-Explanation'. Please remember, you will still have to take them to a certified technician at a local ski shop before your first run. Dennis Ranalter calls it "the perfect all-rounder". That said, the shape of the Tracer 98 leans more toward soft snow performance and maneuverability than edge grip. Im a fairly advanced skier, but want/need to improve on the bumps. I think you'll be pretty stoked either way. I'm trying to decide on a ski to demo and possibly buy for next season. I think the 180ish length is just about right. Id say Im an expert level skier (IMHO). Too short, and you'll find your forearm angled downward. Thanks, HI Phil! Im 165 pounds and 510 and ski mostly at the resort (groomers and off groomers) at Mount bachelor. SE, How would you compare the M Free 99 to the Bent Chetler 100 and the Camex? Mindbender 108 (99 is heavy and more directional) is again soft up front but with more weight behind it, it's far more damp. Ski out west. I like to ski the whole mountain - I enjoy carving the groomers, but spend most of my time exploring off piste. Maybe you want to do some AT skiing too, the Tracer 98 is a good candidate for a touring binding. SE (Jeff), Hi SE, If you're holding the right size pole, you'll notice that your elbow forms a perfect 90 degree angle between your bicep and forearm. The flex pattern is also one of the softest in this category, which really boosts the ski's forgiveness in variable snow conditions and tricky terrain. It uses a wood core made from silver fir and beech, sandwiched between two full sheets of titanal metal, and finished with carbon and fiberglass. Not bad for $719 ($990 cdn). I'm 180 pounds, 5'9", 60 years old, ski mostly soft snow all over the mountain in Colorado and New Mexico at an advanced intermediate or low advanced level of competency on Salomon QST 92 169 cm skis about 20 days a season. For length, you know, honestly, I'd stick with 181 cm. 3D Radius Sidecut applies to this 102, and allows for a great variety of turn shapes and styles, even with a ski that has dual-metal laminate. Intermediate: Congratulations! You certainly don't "need" metal in your skis, but if you're a pretty aggressive guy I think you'll appreciate at least having some. You should also, just for the heck of it, ski the M5 Mantra. If you're not looking to drop too much in terms of performance, I'd go Camox. Well, maybe not, but you get my point. There is also some metal and rubber underfoot that helps boost stability and also helps with binding retention. The extended tip rocker goes well with the low tail profile, creating a good blend of grip in the carve as well as playful flotation. I demoed the 106 QST's last week in CO, and really enjoyed them. SE, Hi There, As one of the burlier skis on this end of the spectrum, the Declivity 102 Ti has a wide range of applications and abilities that will appeal to a broad group of skiers. The surprising part of the ski, though, is the amount of energy and snap that it generates underfoot and through the tail. This narrower brethren is built for a bit more all-mountain skiing, but still has the long tip rocker profile of the 108, making this 100 a very smooth competitor in fresh and soft snow. Its killing my race skis(and me) to go off piste and am looking for something that will bring a smile to my face while still providing a solid platform. I have slalom skis for the groomer days but I ski on my Rossis on everything off groomers. Im not a super technical skier, more freeride style. Nope! Last year, a ski instructor whom I trust suggested that a somewhat stiffer ski might help, especially since 200 pounds of moguls all day might be a bit more than what the Atomics are built for. SE. Myself? The flexibility and playfulness of the ski closely resembles that of a snowboard, so there seems to be a pretty logical transition there. I ski approx. I am looking for a ski that will progress with me as I push my skill level further between more off trail runs and improving on my mogul riding. I'd also put a vote in for the Salomon QST 106 and the Blizzard Rustler 10. Versus the other skis on your list, the QST's don't have metal in them (except underfoot for binding retention), so they're a lot better for skiers who fit your description and application. I think for your application and where you ski, the low 100's underfoot is the place to be rather than 90-95. I would have a good deal on the Enforcer 100 (19/20), so not sure if the difference would be worth it. Should I be looking more in the 90-95mm range?. Yup, those are the lengths I was thinking of. Chairlift Chat is the official blog of Skiessentials.com. The snow was fresh, wet and chopped up. I think the move from the Bonafide to the Rustler makes sense. Im 55, 510, 195, Intermediate/Advanced. Are you not considering the Mantra in the 184? The 192 bumps it up to 22 m, so these things are equally as comfortable going straight as they are in a more turny format. Big time ski crushes going on here at SkiEssentials.com. How they can stand to be bend the way that they do and continue skiing is beyond me, but good for the engineers over at Line for figuring out how on earth to build a ski like this. They both have metal in them, so they're damp and stable, but not the full two-sheet style of the Mantra. I ski pretty playfully and love doing small drops and side hits. Also, I'm trying to teach my 5 and 3 yo kids to ski so I'm in need of some maneuverability. Im a level 2 IASI ski instructor aged 22 weighing 90kg. Not impossible, but certainly on the long side for your stats. I also really liked the Salomon QST 92, so that's worth a look as well. On paper it seems to be basically an Enforcer with more modern materials and thus a bit lighter and hopefully nimbler. In the 180, were looking at an 18-meter turn radius, so these skis do have the proclivity of being on edge. We cannot guarantee mounting if your BSL is provided after the original order is placed. Right now I am skiing the 4Frnt MSP 99 in 176 cm that I bought back in February. The Attack 13 is great too, low stand height, wide platform, and the twin cam heel piece makes them a little easier to click in, but you won't have any problems with that. Just retired, and purchased the Ikon pass. The construction of the Mantra marks the introduction of Volkl's new Titanal Frame construction. Please help. Any advice is appreciated and thanks again for the great reviews! I love the Bent 100 as well, but it's pretty flexible. Those are lighter and more maneuverable than the Enforcer/Ranger, but still have high-performance ceilings. I have been skiing all my life and I am still fairly aggressive, albeit slowing down a little each year. I am an advanced skier (5'10'', 170-ish, 31yrs) who spends 95% of my time skiing the North-East. SE. What would your recommend? -Andrew, Hi Andrew! The M5 Mantra is the most precise and the most powerful on firm snow, at the cost of some forgiveness and maneuverability in off-piste terrain. The QST 99 is an absolutely awesome ski, and I also think it's one of the best in terms of blending east coast and west coast performance. Hi Pete! Think of it as a shoe size, like a "size 11" for example. This clean carver loves to be on edge. I'm looking for a lighter more fun ski that won't tire me out a fast but yet still hold an edge for a guy my size. My wife is still working up to the level of the kids. While the M5s were a dream at speed, I'm willing to sacrifice some stability for something a bit more maneuverable, and I would like the ski to be at least serviceable on powder days. Thanks for all the reviews and helpful information on your site! Hope that helps! No worries, our owner's name is David, so we'll just pretend that what you meant I've tried the M5 Mantra in a 180 and liked them but felt the tips were a little too soft and edge lacking a little firmness on hard-pack, otherwise a solid all around ski. It uses a fair amount of rocker and early taper, which like a lot of skis in this article is more pronounced in the tip than the tail. We often refer to this ski as a Cadillac in that it is smooth, strong, and capable. Technical Specs . Hi SE. Almost all of my resort skiing is woods or bumps, a playful/surfy ski style, but I enjoy laying into a turn too. There have a good candidate for a touring binding angled downward 94 Salomon! 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